VF5R Vanessa: New moves and changes

Hate to double post but something tells me this is the reason leg bomber is getting replaced: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glZY1iwRCyo

...it does have a funky hitbox doesn't it? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

I think Leg Bomber is getting replaced because it's a crappy and ugly move.

I like that they're trying to make previously universal moves different for DS and OS.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWPWQ3PmYNs&fmt=18

Vanessa's new DS /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif and new Takedown /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif animation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANoIuOg6zKs&fmt=18

Hmm, OS /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is now special high, yet is here used to whiff punish a crouching move.

Also observe some of the "wall=half your lifebar" combos that are seemingly universal now in R...

 

Does the new throw remind anyone else of the OS /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif Leg Crush Hold hit throw or is it just me? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif

What's also amazing is how simple is the inputs for this 93 dmg OS wall combo: /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif wall stagger /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. That's 4 forward-forward motions and one diagonal. Maybe the last hit connects only because there's an octagonal wall, still it almost makes me feel Akira deserves his 100-ish wall combo damage /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/blush.gif Three cheers for version R and vane's newfound wall game!

 

From Sept Arcadia issue,


6K DS longer range, easier to use now
66K DS reduced range
1P DS reduced range. Cant kill off special mids anymore.
KK DS Powered up. Used to be K2K or K8K I presume. 2nd Kick is a full circular special high.

Removed some of hold G commands, reversals and low P sabaki.

OS
4K6 Dont really understand what they are saying. maybe someone can help.
43P+K Half circular special high hit throw.


New Moves
DS PK Punch kick duh.
DS 4P+K High elbow. Elbow class speed. Counter = float. Keeps opponent in the air if u used it during air combo.
DS 1P+K Special low. On guard u can do WS P which beats elbow. CH > Big down attack guaranteed. Didnt mention how to combo.
DS 1K+G Long distance knee. NH down. Powerful strong good at mid range. Good for wall, etc. Basically really good-_-;
OS 6PK Same as jacky's 6PK. Can access from PP.
OS 1P Can avoid high attacks. half circular low. On Guard cant punish.
OS K+G Full cicular basically. On Hit side turn.

I might be wrong on some translation. Dont trust me completely

Danny nagged at me to post this /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif

PS: There is a command list booklet included with Arcadia. Havent gone through it yet.

 

Because its Danny

 

Any idea which ones? I leave for Japan in a week and this would be handy to know!

 

G9P, G3P

 

basically they removed the shitty ones.

 

I actually used those quite often, they were good. But that's the case. They could evade even a throw, and timed well those were too powerful IMO. All in all good riddance I gues.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5a6H14uyHI&fmt=18

1:43 Vanessa got a mach breaker too. I assume the command is /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif

 

I'm diggin how Van's style seems more aggressive in R. No more g slicer and runaway mid kick bs I hope.

 

I think I remember seeing a vid where the new 4K6 was used, it seems that now doing 4K6 will do the full 4K animation before going in IS not just canceling it like in VF5. Kind of like OS 3K6.

 

That makes sense now! Thanks!

 

Don't have much time, but some quick observations:

DS /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is stupid good. One people get used to the new stuff they're not going to miss the reversals.

A lot of the new OS stuff is really combo-oriented. One combo I saw used against lightweights by Morimoto using the new bodycheck-style strike is:

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif

He made a movie featuring this, so I'll ask him for it and upload it when I get a chance.

Also, a cosmetic note: for those who prefer Vane's VF4 look, one of the new items for costume A is increased muscle definition. Hooray!

 

LOL, that WON'T be me!

Looking forward to see Morimoto doing that combo! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

Awesome. The old VF4 1P outfit, blacker then black skin and increased muscle definition. My man Van is back.

 

There better not be any irrational censoring in the western version of the game this time /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif

Also i've noticed in this vid acebreaker follows up his DS /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (rebounce) /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. I'm positive i've never seen somebody try that in VF5 - does it work, is it Goh specific or is it just new?

 

DS /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif's new animation can be seen here (1:30). Hella violent /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif

Also check out the combo the vanessa player uses to finish the game: <s>OS /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif hit /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif wall splat /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif refloat /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif against the wall /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif floor scrape! Hurray for the 76 dmg elbow!</s>