VF5 Akira's advance stuff and combos (ver C)

Re: VF5 Akira's advance stuff and combos.

max range /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif
> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif > /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif > /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (?) points.

About this combo, I was wrong earlier, the combo always does 88 pts on counterhit (thats 4 pts more than the standard slam-DbPm). I just got wrong timing and the scaling dropped the damage. So far I have got this combo to work on everyone (including the heavies) except
Goh, Pai, Kage, Aoi, Blaze, Akira. Characters must have some weird property as this is obviously not related to just weight. On the other hand, I may haven given up trying too early. This is just my own testing. When the combo works, it works in both stances. Jeff and Wolf might require 1frame delay on the punch for DbPm to hit, Im not sure. Brad is also somehow tight, but does work.

 

Re: VF5 Akira's advance stuff and combos.

The doublepalm is not guaranteed after the throw and the wall might make it easier to struggle out of.

On the other hand, kuzushi doublepalm wallslam after guardbreak IS guaranteed. Like

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif (guardbreak) - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (wallslam) - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (bounce) - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif standard combo on everyone 64

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif (guardbreak) - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (wallslam) - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (wallhit) - knee 67 on everyone

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif (guardbreak) - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (wallslam) - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (bounce) - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif 74 on midweights

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif (guardbreak) - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (wallslam) - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (bounce) - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (wallhit) - knee 75 on lights


ps. HOw will I ever have time to test all the combos.. blaargh /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

pps. I forgot to say, I can only test stuff at ver.b atm. The akira combo changes in ver.c can be found from VFwiki I think.

 

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wow danny13. just wow. some of this stuff is astonishing. thanks for sharing.

MC SDE open stance v lau

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f_.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (75)

checked this out in training upon going over your post then used it vs richard just today. i didn't get hurt after the combo but i obviously had no pressure afterwards. before checking out your post i just used doublepalm upon getting the "pop" out of the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif.

it's not /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif but it's something.

thanks again.

 

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Really, Double palm not guaranteed? I never see anyone struggle out of the throw though, in the hundreds of matches I've seen on youtube.

 

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I always thought if you did the double palm at the optimum moment, that it was guaranteed regardless of whether they shake the fastest or not.

 

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Ending with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif was something I tested in the beginning too but with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif I was able to get 75 points on several characters too. DBL palm does lesser damage than /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif.

So when you did it on Lau, is it a 'true' combo or Richard failed to techroll?

 

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I went to Osaka the first time thinking that dbl palm is guaranteed too. When I got there, high ranking players (10 dan and above) struggled out and guard 80% of the time.

Now we have VF5 in our local arcade, I lost count the number of times I struggled and guard dbl palm, stunning the eyes of my fellow vfers.

I'll be happy to do a youtube vid just to clarify all doubts.

 

Re: VF5 Akira's advance stuff and combos.

Manjimaru,

I had the chance to test it out, I couldn't do:

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif > 3x /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif > /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif > dbl palm

on Brad. The maximum damage I can do on Brad now is 66 points. Can any1 find a 70 point combo?

On wolf after /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif > 3x /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, my /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif would refloat wolf but the elbow never hits in the ps3 version. I was pretty sure I did it in the arcade. Nevertheless, let's try to find another damaging combo for this heavyweight.

 

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Out of the hundreds of matches you have seen on youtube, NONE of the akiras does my SDE combos too but they works don't they? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

I'm sharing my deepest secret with everyone.

 

Re: VF5 Akira's advance stuff and combos.

Oh nah, I believe you lol. But what's the reason of doing that throw into double palm if people can shake it?

 

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I tested the combo in dojo then brought it to Richard. The only recoveries that happened were after the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. I specifically told Richard at the beginning of the session to try and recover and punish or pressure, just to check out the situation after the combo. Situation was okay for Akira afterwards...looks like a good combo vs Lau.

 

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Set up for zero frame throws?

Usually i would stumble trip, crouch dash 0 frame stumbling trip x 3 to 4 times and make their hands really tired before I switch to other throws.

 

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That's great! Do you do delay 1 frame or something at any part? I'm gonna put it in the first post.

 

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I think it's just fastest timing without any frame killing complications. Easy, easy combo. I'm stoked to contribute. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

 

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It is possible that the combo works on Wolf in version C. For Brad, I don't know a combo that would do more than 66 pts at the moment either.
For Brad I have
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> Knee -> DbPm 66
and
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> DbPm 66 for those who have trouble with the knee. THe Knee combo gives slightly better Okizeme.

I cant test stuff in Ver.C until my stick arrives, hopefully on wednesday. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

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Here's a 71pt Brad combo.

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif > /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (leave neutral) > /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif > /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif

I think the most important thing is doing yoho without wasting a single frame after standing /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif. When you time the yoho right, Brad floats much closer to Akira and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif can connect. Otherwise he'll float too far away for the 2nd /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif to hit.

Btw, I tested this on PS3 so I don't know if it works on ver. C.

 

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s_aki, I couldn't do it even once. T.T care to post a vid or something?

 

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I've been having trouble with Shun and Lau, can anyone recommend some effective combos against them?

 

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Check out this: http://virtuafighter.com/wiki/doku.php?id=vf5:akira:black_book_combos

 

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">care to post a vid or something? </div></div>

yeah i can do that. i saved a match today and now i just gotta find my camera. it'll be a day or two.