Latest VF5FS Tier Lists

Discussion in 'News' started by Myke, May 3, 2014.

By Myke on May 3, 2014 at 3:33 AM
  1. Myke

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    Last month saw the release of a new Arcadia mook titled "Fighting Game REMIX" in which a number of fighting game titles are covered, including Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown. In this edition, the cover the latest tier list for VF5FS.

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    Tier List
    As of 2014-04-18

    SS: Akira
    S: Taka, Lion, Brad
    A: Jacky, Jean, Vanessa
    B: Goh, Shun, Wolf

    (Large Gap)

    C: Sarah, Kage, Lau
    D: El Blaze, Jeffry
    E: Aoi, Pai, Lei-Fei, Eileen


    After four years is the "Final Answer" here?!
    Four years has elapsed with this game. With such a long time and so much strategy evolving, could this be the final ranking (?)

    Points about some important characters
    There is a big gap between B and C rank. We will discuss some of the major points.

    One of Akira's main points is his jumping ascending [K]. It whiffs lows, starts combos and defeats sabaki, and is a full circular that defeats evade. It is particularly powerful during sideturned with +6 where it is guaranteed on evadeCD, and at +9 on sideturned is guaranteed on evade.

    For the characters in A rank compared to S rank there is not a large difference in their fighting abilities, but it is their basic abilities that attracts high praise. Amongst these is Taka, who was getting a lot of interest at the recent BT cup. While Taka can rely on throws and [4][P][+][K][P] against most characters, the opponent must concentrate on specific combos and untechable situations, focusing on the system side to fight Taka, so it is very difficult to have tactics against him. For people unfamiliar with Taka, he is more threatening than Akira.

    Amongst A rank Jacky stands out. The reason that he has fallen in rank is that his options to overcome a guarding opponent are finite. His returns on throws are not that high, and when his high damage throws ([6]and [4]) are broken it leaves him sideturned. Choosing the right move to throw out is quite difficult, so while he may look like a simple character to play, the value in really dedicating yourself to him is difficult. Of course, against an opponent who lacks defensive skills he is S rank.

    Amongst the lower ranks, Blaze and Sarah are well suited to tournaments, each with their attacking options from stances, and are fast so even against opponents adept at defence it can be tough. They are rarely used, and so they may be even more threatening than higher ranked characters if the opponent lacks match up experience. The other character who has ranked up is Jeffrey. His weight is high so damage inflicted is low, and his [P][+][K] and [1][K][+][G] one command moves are powerful.

    Thanks to Unicorn for the tip, and noodalls for the translation!

    Edit: Homestay Akira's Tier List
    Originally posted by Myke as a reply in this thread on Nov 23, 2016:

    So here is Homestay's tier list:

    S: Akira, Jacky
    A+: Goh, Lion, Taka
    A: Brad, Jean, Vanessa
    A-: Kage, Lau, Shun
    B: Aoi, Lei, Pai, Sarah
    C: Eileen, El Blaze, Jeffry, Wolf​

    The only additional information provided was:
    1. Lion and Goh can be S rank if the player is really good.
    2. Taka is not considered S rank because while he is strong against some characters, he is still weak against others.

    It sounded unlikely that we'll get a more fleshed-out explanation of why each character is where they are. If I do, I'll post it up, but don't hold your breath. Regardless of where your particular character lies on this, or the Arcadia, tier list I'm fairly certain there's a lot more work we can do to improve our own game.
     
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2018
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Comments

Discussion in 'News' started by Myke, May 3, 2014.

    1. Tricky
      Tricky
      Thanks bro. I remembered there was another list somewhere but I couldn’t find it when I searched last time. It is too good of a post to be buried in this thread.

      I think homestay list would be useful to come up next to arcadia’s list. Is it possible to amend the first post with his list too?
      Myke likes this.
    2. Myke
      Myke
      Done!
      Tricky likes this.
    3. Tricky
      Tricky
      my man
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    4. Libertine
      Libertine
      Superior physics engine:

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      Combolammas, MarlyJay, Ellis and 2 others like this.
    5. erdraug
      erdraug
      Surely we've all seen our share of vacuum hits while playing VF over the years. Heck, Shun's playstyle practically revolves around making a mockery out of hitboxes [DP]

      So, it would only be fair to cut Tekken (and fellow fighters) some slack.

      As for the tier lists... the disparity between VF5FS tiers seems far less important then for other fighting games I've played. But, I must admit, it is slightly disappointing for long-time fans of the game since the Tier list has been known to be even tighter in some previous versions. "It could have been better" is an argument too bitter to fight over.

      At the same time, current generation fighting games seem to have taken the concept of tier lists to heart, and - from what I understand - some have even attempted to address them with incremental game balances. Maybe it's the influence of "e-sports" in other fields, who knows? :)

      ...why are we all replying to a insipidly resurrected 4-year old thread again? Unless someone discovers some new tech (insta-cancelling a move, adding 20 dmg to a NH launcher or something similarly radical) the topic of VF5FS tiers has run its course.
      Last edited: Sep 26, 2018
    6. Tricky
      Tricky
      Eileen isn't bottom tier. She's at worst a solid middle tier. The tiers are shifting.
    7. Lygophilia
      Lygophilia
      I agree with you Myke of improving your own performance and not getting too caught up on tiers. With fighting games, I tend to disregard which character is best and play with all of them, which is getting better in my own way. Without an interest in the whole roster I wouldn't be playing fighting games.

      Winning was never everything to me and it can be boring winning too often. Losing is a much greater reward, because you can learn more and come back stronger.
      Last edited: Oct 18, 2018
      beanboy and jimi Claymore like this.
    8. HotSauceNelly
      HotSauceNelly
      Vanessa is A tier? Yeah..... I'm definitely doing something wrong. Lol!

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