Black Book Combos

Yep... realized that today. It's quite handy. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

Does anyone else find it straight up just damn hard to pull off: Yoho, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif:/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif//forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif consistantly? Maybe it's just me being "optimistic" but, is it just me or is it just difficult? Anyone have some help to overcome this? Hell, it's not a even neccessary really, but crazy fun to do.

 

Yeah, this is a hard combo, but it's easier than it was in Evo. You have to be pretty sure of yourself with the Knee AND your DblPm buffering to want to try this one in a fight. To practice, you can also do the last 3 parts after /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif on some characters.

 

It will ALWAYS combo. You are obviously a fool, Myke!

*ahem*

No, by a comma, ",", I really meant a stroke, "/." My fault there. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

 

yeah really don't understand this command /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif two double palms will never hit. Or is this just a joke that I'm missing

 

Nope. Just one double palm but with two different ways to buffer it.

 

Judah- Practice, practice, practice. You'll get it man.

I agree 100% with akiralove. The combo IS easier in VF5 than it is Evo.

I find the the easiest way to buffer the DblPm is from backwards crouch dash inputs. But that's just me.

I never got to play Final Tuned so I'm not sure if this was already changed prior to VF5, but I'm still kinda bummed Sega stripped Akira of his /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif-/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif-DblPm option after a successful Yoho//forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. Let alone, the fact that /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif doesn't even float anymore.

He can still make up for it with other juggle options he has, but I still miss those. ALOT.

Plus a number of other things they took away from him./forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif

Oh well.

 

Sup guys, would anyone mind if I turned this thread into an introductory VF5 Akira combo vid?

I know a lot of the stuff comes from Ohsu's Black Book combos but when I get things up and running at my end I was wondering if people were ok with me putting all these combos into a vid?

In fact given the time I could try to make vids for other Black Book combo lists too, just an idea.

 

This is so goddamn cool combo that I wish to say thanks for letting me know it /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif However, I have pulled this on Lau with teching on, and on both stances so I think it may be very worthwhile combo to learn. I did it with just delay, not using dash at all. Im gonna start using this as my main StPm combo now /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif

PS. For some reason this combo does 62 damage occasionally but it still comboes. hmm?

EDITx2:
seems to work on Akira in open stance
with dash it works on Jacky in open stance and does 65?! What is it with VF5 and the variable damage..

EDITx4:
WTH is going on.. I do it on midweights like Kage or Brad and I can get 71 from open stance with dash version and 60 from closed stance?

EDITx5:this combo seems easiest to pull off on midweights,due to their size propably, the second hit of SgPm-SDE seems to easily miss on at least Eileen..

PS to remind, CPU teching on on all cases.. These seem like real comboes. Damage comes from CH b,f+P.

 

I'd say this is a great idea for a new thread, but not as a response in this thread... it'd get buried here. The match archive thread is a great way to do it. Videos right at the forefront. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

 

LM,

Combo vids would be great. I could see them having their own thread in the Akira section. Black Book Combo Vids or just Combo Vids would be enough for the title.

I agree with WrathX that they would just get buried in here.

 

Yeah, that makes a lot more sense tbh.

I'll get to work on it within the next few days hopefully.

 

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif Sabaki: /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif//forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif : 76 damage which is more damage than the combo mentioned in the first post and also gives better wake up.

 

You meant /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif on counter hit not sabaki. You can't get 76 pts on sabaki. Only a maximum of 66 pts.

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif on counter hit, replace Byakko with DJK on all light weights plus Lion for 84pts in either stance. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif(sabaki),/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif works the same way too.

Byakko will only hit on certain Middle weights in specific stance for only 71 pts. A delayed /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif will net 72 pts.

 

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif(KD),/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif works on Lau too but it isn't too stable...could be stance? Not used to looking at stance for crumbles & akira's legs move around & I'm lazy. Damage is 77.

edit. can't figure this one out. works on kage too...don't have time right now to check other characters & can't figure out what's going wrong when I don't get it...

edit again. still can't figure it out. add GOH,LEI, KAGE, SHUN to the list. the trick might be to delay the second kick a hair (not a whole lot like that evo vanessa closed stance de, lp, djk CH combo...just a hair)...I got it to work on jacky but each time his feet were too near the wall for me to count it. with fastest timing only the first kick lands vs AKIRA and it hit really low. I'm assuming it will work on El Blaze & just be a combo up to LAU, perhaps JACKY. vs all the midweights I tested the damage was 77. Not bad damage for what amounts to a reversal...too bad when you miss it you just whiffed a DOUBLE JUMP KICK! Danny, any findings?

 

Thanx for correcting me, you are totally right.

 

You are quite right actually but the conditions for it to connect on some of these characters are too difficult to pull off consistently. >.<

Let see what others will find. More hands works better. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

Interesting combo. I noticed that against some characters it will do 83 on counter hit. Also, delaying yoho and/or first hit of DJK worked on some characters. In these cases, you could try buffer yoho with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif To get the combo to work similarly its possible to hard-delay the first hit of DJK. Here are results from my testing, not gospel or anything.

Eileen - both stances ok - 83
Aoi - closed ok - open: delay? (I got the combo to miss if I did it too fast)
Pai - closed ok - open: delay?
Vanessa - closed ok - open delay? try /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif.kinda hard.
Sarah - both stances ok 83
Lion - both stances ok
Brad - both stances ok
Lei - both stances ok 83
Shun - got combo to work in open but really inconsistent, more testing required
Goh - open stance ok - closed not working
Kage - open stance ok - closed not working
El Blaze - open stance ok - closed not working
Lau - open stance ok - closed not working

Didnt get to connect on jacky and heavier.

When I say 'ok' it means it seems to work without delay. When I say 'not working' I mean that I didnt get them to connect, maybe somebody else can? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

ps. remember that if a move sabakies something, it counts as normal hit so can't pull this much damage out of the sabaki.

 

Ok I tried to see what I could get after a SDE on normal hit and checked through every character. Here's the list I came up with:

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif: 25 damage
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif: 28 damage
Byakko: 35 damage
AS3: 40 damage

Akira: /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif on both stances
Aoi: AS3 on both stances
Brad: /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif on both stances
Eileen: /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif on both stances
El Blaze: /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif on closed stance and AS3 on open
Goh: /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif on both stances
Jacky: Byakko on closed stance and AS3 on open
Jeffry: /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif on both stances
Kage: AS3 on both stances
Lau: /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif on both stances
Lei Fei: /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif on both stances
Lion: /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif on both stances
Pai: AS3 on both stances
Sarah: AS3 on both stances
Shun: /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif on both stances
Vanessa: AS3 on both stances
Wolf: /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif on both stances