Akira: Final Tuned

Re: Akira: Final Tuned Ver.A

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recovery after guard increased from -6 to -8. Yes, the SDE is throw counterable, but only just!

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Re: Akira: Final Tuned Ver.A

He will have a hard time using ++ as reverse nitaku against highs now.

According to the frames, Akira will only be able to go under highs (12 frame) at -2 or less.

 

Re: Akira: Final Tuned Ver.A

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recovery after guard increased from -6 to -8. Yes, the SDE is throw counterable, but only just!


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damn thats a bigass change to have in one version update.... i wonder how well DE will take its place?

 

Re: Akira: Final Tuned Ver.A

I think it took its place already in the original FT.

 

Re: Akira: Final Tuned Ver.A

Poor Akira. Hong Kong has Version A already, which I played quite a lot yesterday. There was a decent Akira that kept challenging me. With all these changes to Akira, I think we can safely say he's well within the pack in terms of character order.

-8 from SDE is a big deal, but honestly it's not much time to react and throw. First, differentiating between SDE and DE is not the easiest thing in the world, and second, you pretty much have to use one directional throws.

 

Just 26 combos. This should take no time. Heh.

Akira Combo Maniacs
Orange Mook
Text - Ossu
Translation - Noodalls


1. +! (B1 or B2)
2. +
3. +
4.

From Akira's moves, let's introduce the combos coming from his big moves. 1 is best damage, and works in open stance up to Lau. On standing counter, it will also hit against the heavier midweights. 2 will work on normal hit with any stance up to akira. 3 is closed stance, and 4 is open stance, for bigs.

+! (B1 or B2)
5.
6. +
7.
8. +
9.

After the knees only light weights 4 is the best damage. 5 works on middle weight with either normal hit or counter hit. 6 is easy to hit in open stance, and the + gives about the same damage. 7 is for bigs in closed stance, 8 is for bigs in open stance.

+
10.
11.
12.
13.
14. ++
15.

Combos from this move give big damage. 10 is for light weights on counter hit, go for it when your opponent has more than 40% of their life left. It is however difficult to land on sarah, so do combo 2 instead. 11 is for lightweights in open stance on normal hit, and will also work with the lighter middle weights in open stance on a counter hit.
12 is for middle weights in closed stance on counter, giving the most damage, more than
++. 13 hits on all middle sized characters on normal hit in open stance, while 14 is for mid sized character on normal hit in closed stance. 15 is a guaranteed combo against heavies, Akira and Jacky.

(on middle counter or greater) or + or ++ sabaki or ++ on counter hit
15.
16.
17. ++

The most safe option is 16, it will connect on all characters. 15 gives slightly better damage, but the difficulty also increases a little. Use it if you have confidence in your inputs. Also, it only connects from ++ on counter. 17 is certainly good damage, and it carries the opponent a long way, making it a ring out tool.

on counter or on small counter
18. ++
19. +
20.

On light weights, in closed stance with a standing counter hit, 18 is the best damage. You can also go for it on lighter middle weights. Against Sarah and Vanessa, it will even work on crouch counter in closed stance.
Essentially, in closed stance 19, in open stance 20. But, in the case of heavy weights, 19 is difficult to land, so if you want certainty it might be worth using a standing


21.
22. (1 frame shortened) +
23.
24.

21 is a special combo against light weights in open stance. The ease of this combo largely depends on the timing of the . 22 is similar in that it works on light weights in open stance, and if you input the (one frame shortened) it becomes easier to guarantee it. The second hit slams them into the ground, so if the opponent misses their tech roll you get a free small ground attack. 23 is a guaranteed combo on all but heavy weights, and 24 is a combo for heavy weights.

+_+
25.
26. ++

Essentially, 25 will connect on all characters. Input the from a slight dash, this is important. 26 is hits on Aoi, Pai, Sarah, Goh, Brad and Kage.

 

Akira Yuki Fighting Guide
Source- Orange mook
Article - Ohsu
Translation - Noodalls

With the properties of his changed, which used to give big damage, Akira's fighting style has changed a lot. As a result, the balance between offence and defence is now a lot more essential. Take your yomi to the limit.

Basic fighting arts - most favoured close in fighting
From FT, Akira's previously main moves have been weakned somewhat, and you now need to be cooler with positioning and require more strength in attack and defence. Originally, Akira could take damage with either his mid attacks or his throws, but with both of them suffering damage reductions in this version, you need to fight with more skill and yomi.
The basic move in this game is . It is small disadvantage on block, the execution is fast, so when it's your turn to attack this is the main mid attack. But, the damage in itself isn't that great, and you have to judge in an instant whether it was guarded, evade, staggered the opponent, or if it was a counter hit what foot stance you are in. If you can accurately pick the appropriate option in these situations, the value of this move is great.
Other moves important moves along with his are and +. The value of either of these moves is different to , and again depending on your ability to respond to the situations after the move the value of these moves will improve exponentially. The important thing is, almost all of his important attacks are single hitting attacks, so practicing until you can judge quickly the hit status is even more important than it is for other characters.
Basically, play it cool, and then occasionally throw out a big move.

Main mid moves right up close
For Akira, he can do the best damage in a close-range battle. Because he struggles outside of upclose, the key to him beating his opponents is to somehow close this distance. First, let's explain the moves he can do that have little risk attached. First, . Because of the command, you can input is smoothly from any situation, and the real execution time is 15 frames, recovery on gaurd is -3, and on counter hit you can go for combos, so it does have enough properties to make it his staple move. Except for where it whiffs, the risk is low.
Next, his , compared to is somewhat specialised in its usage. Because of it's command and execution, it's not really a move that's suited to just being thrown out freely. Throw it out mainly from a crouch dash of use it as an evade cancel. It does good overall damage if you hit it up close, and if they guard the second move then the situation is only -4, and compared to the power of the move the risk is low. If they evade the second move, about the only guaranteed damage they will get is a throw. And, if you spot an evade, you can enter throw escapes and reduce the risk.
has been slowed to -8 from ver. A, and so guarantees a throw on guard, so it's not to be used randomly. Use it only as a countering tool against big moves.

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- The basic mid attack, . On counter hit prepare for a combo, or if guarded think about what defensive options to take.
- The execution is not fast, but the return is large. If you delay the execution, you can use it as a counter to ETEG. ()


Focusing on return with combo starters
Akira's strength, his high damaging, vital big move + will go under high moves and also , and so can be used on the offensive and defensive.
His +(release ) is for when you are greatly advantaged or going for reverse ni-taku.

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- If you execute it from a crouching-back dash, you can evade and also hit the opponent during their failed evade. (+
- This time, one of his main sources of damage is his +(release ). If you can throw it out like other characters knees, you will be very powerful.

Most important topic - defence compilation
Such as after having the guarded, ETEG guard is not difficult to do. If you can do multiple throw escape, your safety increases. Also, even if you do eat a delayed attack, it will be on normal hit, so you shouldn't lose too much damage.
The next thing you want to use is reverse nitaku. + or +(release ) are the best in terms of damage. In particularly, if your opponent expects an evade and goes for a delayed attack, you get a counter hit and with the follow up combo you can get about 40-50%. But, when you abare with a big move, and it's crushed* you'll be hit as either a medium or large coutner, so when you get out-yomi'ed, it's big damage. So, you should mix in , depending on the opponent's habits, which is fast executing and if crushed only gives them a small counter, so it is small risk.
In addition to the previous measures, ARE will make it harder for the opponent to deal with you. Go for it after or . For opponents who are aware of you going for ARE, and counter with an elbow or mid-punch, use +, or for opponents that go for slow fully circular attacks use the fast , this is ideal.

Basic fighting arts - middle range fighting
Difficult to do big damage, the flow of the match will sway back and forth in the crucial middle range. With Akira focusing on one hit attacks the basic idea is to try to choose an option to interrupt your opponent's attacks.
The most useful attack is +. A stomach side half circular attack, on top of having the property of evading high attacks it also has decent reach and the total damage is high. Its weaknesses are the long delay on whiff, and the slow startup, but it's still an easy to use move. If the second hit is evaded, anything up to 16 frames is guaranteed on Akira. You should mix it up by sometimes stopping after the first hit, so that your opponent can't deal with it too easily.
The fast executing, high priority gives good damage if you include the follow on combo, and is the move to interrupt your opponent. From FT, the delay on whiff has been increased, so there is some risk involved, but even now when it is guarded by your opponent it gives +1, so at either close or mid range it is a move that can be relied upon. Use it against single hit attacks of the opponent.
Also, from FT the reach was lengthened and it was made easier to use, so (A1) is a move that you can rely on at mid range. If guarded it is quick to recover (only -3) and if you string to (A1) then you can cause most of the opponent's moves to whiff, and then hit them with + or . It's something that Akira hasn't had up until now, a very speedy and safe staple move. Also, its execution is surprisingly quick at 16 frames, and on normal hit it gives +3, so even in close fighting it can be used. In addition to these, if you add and , and integrate them well, you'll have a good start for attacking.

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- It avoids high attacks, so + is useful even in in-close fighting.
- With , confirm that your opponent's short ranged attack has whiffed, and the execute it, and it will apply big pressure.
- At about this distance, the (A1) will still reach. There is next to no risk.

Basic Fighting Arts - Tough Long Range Fighting
Because he has so many single hit moves, long distance is a difficult distance for Akira to attack from. Even if you choose the appropriate attack, you'll often be caused to whiff it. At this distance, look for the opponent to whiff their moves and go for or use the previously mentioned (A1) etc. while taking the low risk options, carefully watching what the opponent is doing and approaching them, and moving into the favoured close-mid distance fight.

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- At long range, the useful moves are and (A1). The latter is fast executing and knocks down, so if you see a chance you need to apply it effectively.

Akira's true essence - High pressure Okizeme
Pressuring the opponent with the right move when you have the advantage, on their ukemi or wakeup, is for Akira a very important element. Highly specialised attacks for this attacking purpose are laid out for Akira, so you have the chance to take the match in an instant.
The easiest to apply is +. A half circular (evaded to the back) attack, -3 on guard so the risk is low. Also, the attacking area is wide, so even if the opponent dodges the correct direction, they may still not be able to evade it.
For countering opponents that evade the +, there are the half circular (evaded towards the stomach) + and ++ or. If you're worried about risk go for +, if you're going for return ++ or; mix it depending on your situation. In additon to this, against opponents who ETEG or stand and guard, catch throws or normal throws are to be used. Against opponents who use lots of evades or back dashes, mix in some delayed attacks.

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- The reliable +. Since FT the execution has been slowed a little, so you might need to execute it a little earlier.
- ++ or will all connect on a crouching opponent on normal hit, so you can look for it in this instance too.


About the change-moves
The (A2) is an elbow that executes in 14 frames, and on crouching hit it causes stagger. The frames are -6 on guard, -2 on hit and +4 on counter, about average. The merits for choosing this move are that you have access to a fast executing move with one command, When you are fighting against lightweights, with their fast executing , it's good not to have a complex move to rely on. It is plain, but helpful at close range.
+(release ) (B2), different from B1 does not scrape along the ground, but because he puts his body into the air as he does the move it has the effect of evading low moves. The usefulness of this move is against characters like Lion, Pai and Aoi, who have many low attacks. Even when largely disadvantaged, depending on foot stance, against fully circular low moves you can often get a counter, so you can use it as reverse nitaku. If you're focusing on attack go for B1, if you're focusing on defence go for B2.

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- (A2) is perfect against light weights, whose are fast, and even if guarded you're hardpressed to retaliate. Conversely, against other characters it's a little harder to apply.
- Compared to B1, the float is a little lower, and you can't use it to scrape along the ground. You should use B2 depending on your opponent.

About guaranteed retaliation
The combo-strong Akira should look to effectively retaliate against each instance where the opponent leaves themselves open, and in doing so will increase their winning percentage. Depending on the conditions, at -12 and standing go for , at -14 , from crouching between -12 and -15 go for and from -16 +, then from -17 in either standing or crouching go for +(release ) (B1 or B2); attacking your opponent in this way is ideal. Practice to get this working.

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- Especially against low fully circular moves, or slow recovering moves, if you accurately counter with a big move, the opponent will be hesitant to use those moves. Limit your opponent.

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Just for the record, some of those paragraphs were written in the afternoon, and then I wrapped up the others after a 25k run. If there's any discongruence, that would be the cause.

 

Your hard work is most appreciated. Thank you.

I'll have to try this stuff on Thursday, not that the SoCal players will be suprised as I'm guessing they'll have read all this, too. /versus/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

That's amazing that you are taking your time to translate these valuable info for everyone on the forum. Hats off to you.

 

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after a 25k run

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That ain't no little run. /versus/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Many thanks for this and all the translation work noodalls. & then thanks again.

 

Excellent work Noodalls, much obliged. /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

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1. +! (B1 or B2)
2. +
3. +
4.

From Akira's moves, let's introduce the combos coming from his big moves. 1 is best damage, and works in open stance up to Lau. On standing counter, it will also hit against the heavier midweights. 2 will work on normal hit with any stance up to akira. 3 is closed stance, and 4 is open stance, for bigs.

+! (B1 or B2)
5.
6. +
7.
8. +
9.

After the knees only light weights <font color="yellow">4</font> is the best damage. 5 works on middle weight with either normal hit or counter hit. 6 is easy to hit in open stance, and the + gives about the same damage. 7 is for bigs in closed stance, 8 is for bigs in open stance.

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I'm a little confused here. I've highlighted the <font color="yellow">4</font>. Is it supposed to be a <font color="white">5</font> and then everything else one digit higher?

 

Unfortunately the translation is accurate, so it may be a mistake on Ohsu's part (and there are a few of them in the guide.) I think we can take it as you're saying.

 

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+
10.
11.
12.
13.
14. ++
15.

Combos from this move give big damage. <font color="white">10 is for light weights on counter hit, go for it when your opponent has more than 40% of their life left. It is however difficult to land on sarah, so do combo 2 instead.</font> 11 is for lightweights in open stance on normal hit, and will also work with the lighter middle weights in open stance on a counter hit.
12 is for middle weights in closed stance on counter, giving the most damage, more than
++. 13 hits on all middle sized characters on normal hit in open stance, while 14 is for mid sized character on normal hit in closed stance. 15 is a guaranteed combo against heavies, Akira and Jacky.

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I see that 10 and 12 are the same. Also, the highlighted sentence, is Ohsu suggesting going all the way back to 2 or using 12 (which is shown to be the same as 10 - which is also confusing to me)? Thanks in advance for clarification.

 

hrm, the 10 and 12 thing is definitely confusing, but when he says "2" he definitely means 2.

 

I edited combo 10, that was my messup. Thanks for reading it and finding the mistakes. The 12/2 thing is again transposed from what's written there, so while I'm fairly sure Ohsu means 12, I left it as it is in the Orange mook.
Vanity, did you just screw up there?

 

To me, it makes sense for Ohsu to suggest 2:

shrm (MC) > p > shrm > dbpm

This is a viable combo in Evo vs LWs (and in VF4 as well I think...up to some MWs I think too) so I presume it's still in FT.

When he says 2, I really think he means 2.

(After seeing the edit, I can see why he would suggest using

shrm (MC) > p > shrm > dbpm (2)

as opposed to

shrm (MC) > p > yoho > sgpm-de (10)

on Sarah since the added height of the float after counter would mean 2 is better in the damage stakes than 12 (and presumably 10 is v. difficult)...so I think it's all good now, certainly 2 as opposed to 12...well IMHO).

Cheers for all this hard work Noodalls.

 

yeap, LM has it.

and no noddalls, i didn't screw up, he means shrm, p, shrm, dbplm

 

Thanks to all who jumped in so quick with an answer to my previous post.

Here's some more:

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(on middle counter or greater) or + or ++ sabaki or ++ on counter hit
15.
16.
17. ++

The most safe option is 16, it will connect on all characters. 15 gives slightly better damage, but the difficulty also increases a little. Use it if you have confidence in your inputs. Also, it only connects from ++ on counter. 17 is certainly good damage, and it carries the opponent a long way, making it a ring out tool.

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I don't know the difference between "++ sabaki " and "++ on counter hit."

If you execute ++ and you're, like, too far away or you timed it wrong so it dosn't give you the sabaki animation and sound - I don't think does anything other than a stand alone high punch. I don't understand what Ohsu is talking about here - in order to guarantee 15-17 you need crumple...

Hmm... I guess it's possible if you ++ sabaki at furthest distance, the opponent actually recovers, tries a move, and gets hit - then that is counter? It still doesn't explain the ++ (not ) notation to me. I don't know what that move is.

 

It should be ++(Counter) instead.
a typo mistake of the orange book!