Version C changes

Pai's Changes

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif is now Punch counterable on guard.
Her /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is -4 on normal hit
Pai's while standing /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif no longer causes stagger.

Read on below for more Ver C changes. The original post I made had some fake info.

 

Thanks for posting these Jide! Keep 'em coming..

 

just a quick update, They arent confirmed yet!!!!

Pai:
2_P(upper): on Guard, p guaranted. something about sukashi is gone, this part i dont get what it means.
7K+G: on Guard, p guaranted.
2_5K(while standing K): Normal hit = Knocht down, (stagger gone?)
2_6P+G: dmg down 5
63214P+G: longer recovery after the throw.
PK: normal hit = -4
PK cant connect after mid(kick) anymore?
9K+G、6P、PK: 1 f changes, prob -1f (not sure)

Lau:
7K+G: on guard, p guaranted.
Tiger Stance K: counter hit down? (like jacky's 33P)

Sarah:
6K+GK: normal hit side turned?

Aoi:
43P: no more special mid? keep nerfing aoi? wtf

Vanessa:
Defense stance: 3K+G,6K+G. down attack no more guaranted.

Eileen:
PP6P: fuked up
46K: 1f slower
236P+K mid K getting beter?( i don't get this, id otn play eileen lol)

Kage:
TFT command changes to 270 lol wtf!
3P: high wtf!
2K+G: dmg only 13?!! wtf!
After PK u cant to go new stance anymore....
new stance slap(3P), knee counterable...
new stance 2KK, second k knock down only on CH.
no dashing run in new stance...wtf

Kage's change must be jokes heheheh....
well i translated those by just random reading on vf5bbs...

 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">43P: no more special mid? keep nerfing aoi? wtf</div></div>
I don't even get this change -- as in what they could have done to it. Making it mid would have be a lolocaust (as she would now have the fastest mid in the game, and one that avoids highs... wtf?). What did they do, make it hit high (lol that would make no sense). Low? Special low?

 

Yeah, some of these are not real. Especially the Eileen ones, aside the PP6P change, all the others are just theories.

I think you need to put a big caption saying "THESE ARE NOT CONFIRMED, NO BITCHING YET PLEASE"

I don't even get this change -- as in what they could have done to it. Making it mid would have be a lolocaust (as she would now have the fastest mid in the game, and one that avoids highs... wtf?). What did they do, make it hit high (lol that would make no sense). Low? Special low? </div></div>

Actually, that is not a nerf lol... not being a special mid is actually better. Now you can damage a crouching opponent with 43P, if it was a special mid, it does no damage on a crouching opponent.

 

Agree on Kage's changes, LOL...

 

That's what I meant -- I can't see how changing the hit level from s.mid to anything else would be a nerf (unless they made it high or s.low). Making it mid would give the move some funny applications. :3

 

Kage changes are fake, but Shippujin stance is nerfed.

Shippujin overall has longer recovery, and i think many of the moves are not full or half circular anymore.

-Shippujin 6P doesn't knock opponent away on block, so Kage is under forced nitaku.

-Shippujin 2KK damage reduced drastically.

-Shippujin 3P has much bigger recovery.

-TFT is still 64P+G

-3P+G damage reduced



Pai got super nerfed it seems.

 

Thanks for all of the info guys. Is there any information on changes for Goh yet?

 

Pai

7K+G
Just like Lau, 7K+G is much more punishable. Possibly P counterable on block.

PK
It used to be +3, but now it's now -frames on normal hit.

Staggers caused by sidekick and full charged 3PK seems easier to struggle out of. It's harder to connect PK on the opponent.

After 63214P+G throw, opponent can get up quicker.

while standing K knocks down instead of stagger now.

9K nerfed once again, can not beat LP in even situation.

2_6P+G dmg decreased by 5pts possibly.

 

Other misc changes...

Shun's sabaki window possibly shorter. After the first part is guarded, Shun is now -frames. Second hit might be elbow counterable now. (We all expected this didn't we?)

Nuki said that Aoi is stronger now, but not exactly what specifically was mention. More play time is needed possibly.

Jacky lost the wall combo ability after 33P+G.
6P+KP looks like it floats on counter hit.

Lau maybe stronger overall

 

Yay, no Goh or Akira changes! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

 

I wouldn't be so quick to make that statement...

 

But... but... all the broken characters were fixed... right?

Lemme live in my world of optimistic pessimism!! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

 

As a Pai player and someone who won't play Ver C probably I should hate these changes but I welcome them. Anything to make the game really balanced. Keep the info coming and thanks you guys for the work.

 

Wow cool stuff.....

<span style='font-size: 8pt'>
*prays* EVO dragon cannon EVO dragon cannon.....</span>

 

God I hope that Aoi change is true and that there are more to follow it...

 

NO NO NO!!! Tell me thats not TRUE ;(;( OMG, why my PAI is WEAKER, WWWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY???

 

I'm no expert, but that's probably called "game balance" /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif .

BTW, I really hope they will make Kage's hit->guaded->LOLpwnt-throw a bit more visible, for example give it a "whoosh" or make him do that special sound a bit earlier than some 1 frame before it hits, heh.

Overall, I like what I see, can't wait to see more.

<span style='font-size: 8pt'>*prays*no Evo dragon cannon, no Evo dragon cannon, no Evo dragon cannon... and yes, I play Sarah. At least these days I don't hear "that cheap ****" thrown around so much... And I'm a sucker for game balance</span>

 

hmm... why would they make pai weaker... lemme think... this is a toughy...

is the answer 'for the same reason why they toned down shun's "taste the rainbow" super-sabaki-everything that is safe on block because of hit check into guaranteed /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif juggle?'

just a thought... and that's coming from a shun player. i accept that loss because i realize it's a bit nuts. the only thing i don't want is for the move to become totally useless... shun's only other worthwhile sabaki in /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif takes him 10 drinks to get, and it's throw/jab punishable on block.

...and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif doesn't count either -_-