Stagger and Crumple combos

I'm finding myself causing stagger and crumple conditions from the side and back. My problem is i'm not sure what to do with them.

from a side crumple caused by a mid kick i /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/n.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif then /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif.

from side stagger i /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif if i can, but thats about all i know. I haven't a clue of effective things to do from behind. Part of my trouble is how hard i'm finding it to test these things in dojo.

Any advice? Thanks.

 

Thanks for the reply Tricky. I've been experimenting in Dojo and the 2 i mentioned don't seem so bad. Can't really seen to find anything better anyway.

Is there a way to test back stagger and crumple combos outside of verses mode? The Dojo doesn't seem to want to let me. Stupid opponent keeps turning around.

 

I tried that and i can only get it go give me a side crumple. I may have to go into verse mode and use my feet. Could be interesting.

 

Thanks Kingo, that worked great.

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif ,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif hit for 63 damage, but the 2nd part of the jump kick looks like it may not hit reliably against heavy opponents.

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif ,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif hit for 60 damage and looks more reliable.

 

Strangly, i never consider Oki when deciding what combo to do. Oki is just on of those things i do with Eileen. It's funny because i'm told it's the most annoying thing about my monkey girl.
Would 236P+KK, PK give more time to maneuver? finishing with P3P is nice for a free Zenk.

Anyway, new question. when i'm near a tall wall i force a stagger with 6P+G(direction) then P. I then 33P then do something that ends with 236KKK or 236KK,9K+G.

My question is what are the best options when using a small wall?

 

I can't test at the moment(RROD) but i'm pretty sure 2_3P+K won't knock a back turned staggered opponent over a wall. I couldn't get i to do so anyway. 9K+G doesn't either if i remember correctly.

Thanks for the vid tricky. I'm pretty confident with high wall combos, just unsure about using the low wall to maximum effect.

33p give the high wall splat on the half fence so i'm not sure it's the way to go.

me doing my fave wall combo at the end of round one of this vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f1d-x0lZRk&feature=related
i'm SO much better at the game now....but Kingo still kicks my arse /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/blush.gif

 

Ah, i was asking about if i stagger an opponent after using monkey girls 6P+G6 throw if i started with MY back to the wall. if i Jab the opponent in the back they should be backturned and staggered.

With a tall fence I'd follow this up with 33P and a combo like you displayed in your vid.

With a short fence i'm going to need something different, which is what i'm unsure about. What i am sure of is that it's very difficult or impossible to knock this BT staggered opponent out the ring with 2_3P+K or 9K+G.

Sorry if that was unclear before.