Pai VF5FS Version A Change Log

VF5:FS Pai's Command List (Version A)

The colors denote the following:

Red - Guaranteed Knee Situation

Orange - Guaranteed Sidekick Situation

Yellow - Guaranteed Elbow Situation

Green - Guaranteed Jab Situation

Blue - Guaranteed Throw Situation


I would appreciate those that can give detailed information for moves causing the "Down" hit effect, as well as combos.

 

Here is Pai's combo list courtesy of Virtua Wiki.

VF5FS Pai's Combo List

Heh, let me warn you from first-hand experience that you'll need to put on your detective hat to understand and solve many of the comments and phrases on this site.

Kruza

 

Excellent. Just the kind of thing that I needed. Thanks!

 

Thank god for my Japanese, phew! Time to bookmark this

 

Thanks for the links! Here is a list of character shorthand/abbreviation I think some might find it hard to figure out:

æ„› = Eileen
覆 = El Blaze
葵 = Aoi
è» = Vanessa
蟷 = Lion
妹 = Sarah
娘 = Pai
爺 = Shun
è¡€ = Brad
父 = Lau
禿 = Lei Fei
剛 = Goh
å½± = Kage
ç´… = Jean
å…„ = Jacky
晶 = Akira
狼 =Wolf
æ¼ = Jeffry
é·¹ = Taka

 

She feels a bit different now, but I definitely see the potential with the new tricks she's gotten.

 

a BIT different??? She's lot different. I haven't played since VF5 vanilla, but Pai a lot of moves have been added/moved/taken away.

This is more than a move her and there. Pai lost her palm sabaki and all of her inashi's. I have to check the execution windows and see if the windows for her reversals have been changed; maybe they are closer to her inashi's. She has a lot of new mid's. She even has a new stance. That is a lot to incorporate.

 

She isn't that bad in FS. It takes some minor adjusting to her new way of playing if you played her in vanilla. I prefer to play her in FS overall because of the wider variety of mids she has. The biggest change for me was to get used to some basic combos I know I am going to use. I like how smooth the game runs now overall it is great across the board.

 

can anyone help me out with some pai combo's?
hers aren't so straightforward as most of the cast it seems as she doesn't have a main launcher like akira/taka/etc 33p.

*3pp6p/3k+g/bt k - all seem to have the same hit animation

*2(3)p+k; p,46k+g, dash, 7k, 6k+g, p, p+k, 4k+g - is something i saw on a video.

46p+k; 9k+gk (48dmg)

really stuck here..

 

What move are you guys using after a successful evade? I used to punish with her offensive move but it's gone now...

 

is good too if your opponent throws a lot.
Standing still launches also.

 

Does anyone know if there's still any benefit to performing swallow kicks as ++,? You still *can*, but is it necessary or is +, identical?

 

ah, i should have rephrased my question better:
launchers i can find, but the followups/combofillers are harder. i have no idea which strings/attacks lead into good dmg besides
-pp4pk
-46k+g bounce

i'm seeing a lot of iwsK and, i'm guessing iwsP+KP in juggles. but don't know the structure for when to use them.

so far pai's launchers are:
-k
-ch (2)3p+k
-bt k
-hakke p
-bok p+k
-bok k+g
-1p
-3pp6p
-3k+g
-66kp
-ch hakke k

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and what about her new moves, any thoughts on usage?
46k+g
46p+k
466p+k
6p+kp
66p
whole hakke stance
64pp
(3kp)p
2p+kkp
3p+k
2k+g

 

gives a guaranteed throw if blocked. Or did they change that as well?

I also noticed that the offensive move was not in the command list but I can still do it, although I can't do the follow-up attacks that were attached to it. Is this system-wide or is it a glitch that only involve a few characters.

 

I believe this is system wide. Movement is still there, P and K versions of attacks out of it are gonzo.

 

totally throwable

 

I thought so. So wouldn't that mean that KillaKen's point is mistaken. If your opponent throws a lot, then wouldn't be playing into his hands more often then not. Wouldn't someone who throws high be more likely to bait, block, and throw while you are in recovery?

Edit: Not to pick on Ken on or embarrass him. But this is a sited dedicated to improving our play, so I thought it best make the point.

I admittedly don't know the ins and outs of that well, as it first appeared in VF5:FS and I have only had it for 2 days (but wonderful, glorious days they were). So right now, I like Akai's suggestion of the best.

As Akai said, it needs a counter-hit to launch but it is safe on block. The change in the command makes it easier for me to use from a distance by combining it with a crouch-dash. What used to be is now . I can use is as a poke. A poke that launches on counter.

Is my logic flawed? Does anyone know a better idea? I'm always open for improvement.